Fernando Godoy – Eric Mattson – Le Bloc Oral

El vie, 13 may 2022 a las 16:02, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

Hola, para diseñar y construir la Caja Manual, necesitaría la siguiente información: Medios, tamaño, peso. En negro, la información recibida en esta fecha. En rojo, los que se van a recibir

Hello, in order to design and build the Manual Box, I would need the following information: Media, dimension, weight

In Black, the information received at this date.

In red, those to be received:

No hay que perderseNE PAS OUBLIER / Not to be missed: YAN JUN (chine.a), sleepings(dormida, RADIO TSONAMI, 2 hours /horas, 19-05-2022, 6-8 PM. 

Documentos auditivos y actuación en directo / Documents audios et performance en direct / Audios docs and live performance

https://radiotsonami.org/

 

2022-05-22. Manual 4@ Radio Tsonami. Entervistas con Vincent Thériault, Jen Reimer, Martin Rodriguez, audio de Ida Toninato y Daniel Canty

Barbara Gonzales:?

Fernando Godoy:?

Ozzo Ukumari😕

Steve Bates: ?

 

 

 

El mié, 25 may 2022 a las 8:58, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

Hola Fernando

Me voy el lunes para la primera residencia en Pointe De Moisie. Antes de irme, me gustaría saber en qué punto se encuentra el proyecto del manual, para poder pensar en cómo integrarlo en las próximas emisiones. Sólo una pequeña actualización, tal vez. Buenos días Fernando and if your hand moves fast, maybe tell me a little about

1- Rostock?

2- What is your set up on your IPhone, so to record and play Live from any location. can you send me info please.

1. We are starting to work with Thomas on some aeolian Harp with Bloc Oral (Alexandre st-Onge, Emilie Payeur, Felix-Antoine Morin, Marc-Alexandre Reinhardt, Thomas Bégin and me) on radio Bloc Oral. Ciao.

 

Eric

 

 

 

De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, tu vs manual

Date: 26 mai 2022 à 10:34:01 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

Hola Eric! Manual va bien, pero aun me falta para comenzar la acción del cassette que circula de forma random, por que aun tengo una duda: la pregunta exacta que invita a responder el mensaje en la cinta. Osea quien encuentre el cassette y tenga como escucharlo o escuche el QR que lleva al audio en digital que irá impreso dentro de la carátula, debe encontrar un mensaje que le motive a participar anónimamente. El cassette comienza con una explicación del proyecto, luego algunos ejemplos de colaboraciones, y luego invita a participar, a construir una cartografía subjetiva colectiva de memorias del barrio.

 

1.- rostock

Estuvo fantastico. Vivimos en el barco y yo trabajé con el Club de arqueologia submarina para construir una escultura-objeto que fue enviado al fondo del mar con un mensaje para la humanidad dentro de 100 años, el mensaje esta compuesto de entrevistas a adultos, mensajes de niños resultado de un taller, grabaciones de paisaje sonoro del mar y grabaciones ilegales de comunicaciones de radio maritimashttps://www.instagram.com/p/CdgbaYRuchw/

2.- phone

uso Mic stereo Shure MV88 + izicast apppara iphone, es por lejos la mejor aplicacion. Eso es todo

3.- windharp

i am thinking to apply for funding soon (next month), if you want you can be part of the net of arps for the arps live streaming

 

 

 

 

De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: URGENT Eric, manual Box Set: what do you put IN?

Date: 26 mai 2022 à 10:34:58 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

Yo quiero poner un cassette 

 

 

 

El vie, 27 may 2022 a las 12:59, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

Good good

Windharp, for sure. we will do experiments all june and later on this summer

great, when i do the application i contact you for this. Also Thomas si researching to build an autonomous server at his home. He is confident we may use it soon.

if not we may be able to install IZYcast (? Not Icecast ???)  on a server soon.

IZicast is an app for cellphone NOT for a server 

We are going to develop interesting tools for artists radio broadcast in next future.

Rostock sounds great, your work looks like the work i saw at Tsonami gallery in march (aaaahhhhhhhh). I do like these ideas, as when Marc-A in Messene did put in a hole on Zeus Mountain a USB stick.

XD, they copy me!!! i did it before in Montevideo where was the first time capsule of the project. No i am joking, the guys in Valpo do it great, but of course are similar because both are time capsules, a very old and NOT original idea. The interesting thing is the process, and we design this object for been sent to sea floor. I enjoy all the process and relation with the people involved. How were other projects? So many other projects! Carsten project was nice, a kind of analogic sonification of water, but using some modular self-contructed devices 

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Please go on, keep the good mood with your project for Manual… Not sure how it will work, so… Here it would not really work: people, even more now are all selfish, only into their works, not really participating. Conservatism is polluting all sides of our society. 

Even I, i feel less curious, i go only to exhibitions i am really sure i will like, communications with friends are low. 

I will do! still triying to solve the last question on the proyect in order to put it on the streets

 An artist in Manual has produced a book in which there is a form, so people can reply… nobody who received by post the book has done it yet. 

I think the problem is people don’t respond unless they get really interested, and that the difficult thing!!!

DAS IST LEBEN !

 

MANUEL : i have made a first report to one subvention institution for the 1st Phase, with 13 artists. 2nd Phase is 

A - 

2nd Phase involves also works by you, Barbara, Ozzo, Yan Jun, Steve Bates and Thomas Bégin.

B - for previous artists and you 6, more about distribution, diffusion, following the variations into social decisions vs pandemic; with a quite indigest website ; with an object called Manual, to be built with Thomas, both digital and analog, a mix of an urn (urna) and a digital console. Your cassette will be welcomed, i will consider it in the design of the BOX. This box will be on Display in next sept exhibitions. So send one as soon as it is done (address below)

with Radio works as last weeks on RT

with one week exhibition here in Montreal, september 6 till 12

with a participation to a group exhibition in Quebec City

Possibly a series of concerts in October far away in the countryside.

TSONAMI

and what do we do for next Tsonami. Do you accept Nicole and I would come as a curator task force, exploring? we should define this soon!! we are close to open the call for this year. Still focus on territory, social aspects and collaborative works. No only collectives but projects ho need to be done with "others"

 

 

 

 


De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, tu vs manual

Date: 29 mai 2022 à 15:50:32 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

Matson

 

 

 

El sáb, 11 jun 2022 a las 10:40, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

:

Barbara, me escribiste sobre una transmisión por radio, ciertamente eso sería posible, pero con la radio Tsonami, nuestra propia radio aquí no está en funcionamiento y no lo estará por un tiempo. Pero no tengo mucho para una entrevista. ¿Podría escribirme con más detalles sobre su proyecto? Y también, ¿sería mejor que Fernando, por ejemplo, realizara la entrevista? Podríamos planear el espectáculo juntos, los tres...

Fernando está en CC.

 

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De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, iManual vs barbara

Date: 17 juin 2022 à 18:00:43 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

Cc: Bárbara González Barrera <gonzalezbarbar@gmail.com>

 

Disculpen la demora. Por mi lado ningun problema, yo puedo realizar la entrevista si asi quieren, y ayudar a planear juntos!

 

 

 

 

De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, Manual... any news?

Date: 11 juillet 2022 à 11:11:57 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

Cc: ozZo Ukumari <ozzo.ukumari@icloud.com>

 

Buena Mattson! Encantado de ayudar en la transmisión con Ozzo! agosto es un buen momento para mi, estaré en Valpo. Te respondo tu otro correo por las fechas y mi proyecto del manual!! abzos!

f

 

 

El lun, 11 jul 2022 a las 12:02, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

Of that dog? and of you for Manual? and Dear Diktator Godoy for US regarding next edition of Tsonami ? Also let’s work in august on an audio transmission at radio tsonami with Ozzo and You

 


 

 

 

 

 

El jue, 7 jul 2022 a las 17:38, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

Hola Fernando : Manual - The Box - Radio Tsonami - Tsonami

 

TSONAMI. We, Nicole and i are still really looking in flying to Chile For Tsonami 2022. What do you think about us as a Curaotor Posse, scrutinizing the situations, analyzing things and working on some studies, reports. And Docu ? We don’t feel to bring anybody, anyway we just work with Big Egos not with Kollektifs

 

sounds good! maybe you can come and scrunizing and observing all the collectives works an then do some texts or some kind of documentation.

 

Just to consider, i think all, or almost all the artists-collectives will speak spanish, so probably no so much english during the residencies and festival.

 

 

WHEN SHOULD WE LAND in Chile ? (we will stay after Tsonami for some weeks…, I hope).  

 

our idea is to have residencies between nov 14 and dec 10th (last day of the festival itself)

 

 

RADIO TSONAMI

 

June 6 till 12 we have a Home, shelter in montreal for Manual artists to meet. Would be great to make a radio Show, or few ???  with Barbara ( 1st) You ? , Ozzo ?

Could it work. ? If yes, in august we hould prepare these transmissions. 

 

count wiuth me, agust will be available in valpo

 

 

THE BOX 

is a knitting box with a Raspberry Pi inside with command screen, headphone jack and Hdmi link to a screen. Audios and videos will be displayed thru the BOx.

The BOX is the Manual, as the Internet site is as well. Nothing too fancy, nothing clean and clear. I was ready to pay high $ to Thomas to design a special box when i thought such Box when opened make the Job.

I will print Postcards for eacch projects to ne in the Box with other objects (Cat Collar by Martin Rodriguez, Bronze Bell by Caroline, Ceramiv Rattle by Émilie, Sound Postcard by Vincent etc…..)

 

PLEASE send me asap things to print, with instructions. Would love do Postcards for your project AND a poster to hang in the Room at Produit Rien

 

 

i will ask Pablo (the graphic man), i am still waiting the proposals from him for the project.

 

 

MANUAL : please keep on the Good work, send me Invoice when posters work is done.

 

maybe you should remind me the link in between this call to neighbours and Sending Signalsto Meteors (i don’t believe in God neither in Life elsewhere, why someone would have made twice the same mstake ?)

 

YES, the project is getting biger and biger. I realize it have big potential, all people I comment react really interested. 

 

To responde your answer i would said there is some relations

 

1.- The project ask people about their feelings about the future. I am sure the feelings of the future are very related with our last years of global and local events and relationships. 

 

2.- the call is open, so i would say that the idea of neighbourhood is expanded to society

 

3.- send messages to outer space understand the planet as neighbourhood of the cosmic ocean. Also part of the messages will return to the earth when hit far away planets, meaning the message also is sent to the future, so it is possible to hear it from the earth in next years.

 

About what is comming, i am waiting the graphics, then i will prepare a difusion including phisical flyers on the streest and press (the tsonami journalist is very interestd in helping on this), then i have to give some time for the public responses via whatsapp. Once i have the messages i have to filter if there is some facists discourses and prepare the final file, with some introduction and maybe some sounds from the sorroundings. Then i have to prepare the transmision with the uruguay radio hobbiest, would be nice to send also somebody to take some pictures of videos of that moment.

 

I am also thinking would be good to have a website for the communication campagne, so people can have more information.

 

About the money for the printed material and design, i understand you can send it by paypal, right? is possible to incude a video person or fotographer for the uruguay transmision?

 

abzo

 

 

 

De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, The Manuel (as a Box)

Date: 11 juillet 2022 à 12:13:55 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

mattson, respondo abajo

 

The Best to You. Eric

Eric. My project is going very well, and is growing up

I have confirmed the help of another artists, he works doing flyers and spreading them in the city. His graphic work is special, kind of ironic and poetic approach. I like them a lot, but his images can feel naive if you don’t really understand the meaning:

https://www.instagram.com/editorial_plo/

Hi is now working on a graphic proposal for the flyer. Now i am in contact with radio hobbyist from Montevideo, they are NOT FASCIST as radio hobbyist in Chile, they are kind of socialistic radio hobbyist guerrilla XD. My research about sending signals to the cosmos shows me amazing themes, now i understand we need to transmit between 1.3 and 1.7 Ghz, because that range is the "interstellar communication band". There is huge and famous projects dedicated to "ear" radio signals from outer space, continuously scanning, as this one: http://www.bigear.org/about.htm

Also is necessary to point to a specific area in the universe in order to send the message, because the antennas at that frequencies are super directional. When the signal reach cosmic objects as planets part of it bounces and come back to the earth, so in the next years eventually some people "earing" the universe can listen the messages send to the infinity. But going to the point, i can send you a flyer for the box.

f

 

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El lun, 18 jul 2022 a las 17:48, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

Hola Fernando. Aquí tiene una prueba de una tarjeta postal que se imprimiría y distribuiría en septiembre. Los QR deben funcionar para cada uno de ustedes para los que se han establecido enlaces a audio, vídeo o un sitio, de lo contrario están allí sólo como un ejemplo. Si prefieres otra foto, envíamela. Si te gusta este, házmelo saber. Estas fotos son en su mayoría jpgs RGB de 72 dpi, convertidas a CMYK para su impresión. Si tienes esta imagen (o la que la sustituye) con mejor definición, por favor envíamela. A parte de los proyectos en los que se tiene la idea de imprimir varias fotos para una exposición en una galería (Eric Normand, particiones, Anne-Marie Proulx y Caroline Gagné, Bruire, Steve Bates, Barbara, Fernando) También imprimiré algunos carteles de tamaño medio para una exposición en la galería. De nuevo, si tienes una foto, especialmente una vertical, por favor envíamela. Todo el material a imprimir debe ser recibido antes del 8 de agosto, fecha de mi regreso. Gracias por su comprensión.

Hasta pronto

 

 

 

 

El vie, 19 ago 2022 a las 8:14, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió: (

 

Hoy envío una lista de enlaces web para recibir códigos QR que van en el reverso de las tarjetas postales. Esta es mi última cita. No tengo ningún enlace para que insertes a tus sitios o proyecto desde el Manual. Bárbara, pondré el enlace al disco de Bandcamp. Fernando, no tengo ningún enlace para insertar, ni foto para la tarjeta. Gracias

 

 

 

 

 

De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, hoy Urgente

Date: 19 août 2022 à 11:20:49 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

Matsson. If I send you instructions, do you have someone for make the postcard? is really simple, just a text in the front, and a QR for sending me possible messages. Pitifully Pablo doesnt react

 

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El vie, 19 ago 2022 a las 11:51, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

ok, Fernando, this is now or never. I am finalizing works to send to printer, after i will receive this WE the QRs codes, my graphic files are done…

This doesn’t mean the End of your project if you still want or can make it, with pleasure

then my reactions:

1- We make an economy of 300 $: forget about Pablo. I am sick of bad partners…bad neighbors, stupid right centrists etc… 

2-You will have to refund me 1250 ca$, so i can pay my flight, as we haven’t received any Letter of Invitation, we can’t ask for fundings, we’ll have to come on our own expenses.

3- Once in Valparaiso i will kick your footballer ass

4-I can do the graphic design, for Postcard, bigger one for the Box Manual, for a small poster for the gallery, or bigger one (your size?). Here is actual design of your postcard, if i get all INFOS NOW…

But First I need NOW a link to your Manual page, i will include in my Xcell file for him to produce QRs for everyone, NOW! I’m gonna post it in an hour or so, 

5: WHAT is then now your project. I may say i am quite confused. If i understand well, you are waiting for that poster or postcard so that others do the job for you?

Claro would be nice to not getting in circle, and understand what you intend to do, once you’ll dismiss from your job at Tsonami.

6-Can we think seriously (or not, then we don’t do it) of a Radio transmission: you, maybe Ozzo and Barbara during my exhibition sept 7 till 11, one of these days, daytime even!!!! ($$$; for barbara & ozzo, 00000 for you)

 

 

 


De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, hoy ULTRA Urgente

Date: 19 août 2022 à 12:11:12 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

Here the TEXT for the postcard, is the only content, no graphics, just words

 

¿Qué le dirías al futuro?

Déjanos un mensaje de voz

que será enviado al espacio exterior

por un grupo de radioaficionados de Montevideo

utilizando una antena a 1296 Mhz

para atravesar la atmósfera terrestre

y alcanzar el océano cósmico

El mensaje apuntará la estrella HR3018

a 50 años luz

distancia suficiente

para volver a la tierra

en 100 años

 

The idea is if someone wanted to send a message (and understad spanish XD) can use a QR code in the back. The code i can send it to you today later. The other qr code i am not sure if understad, you need one pointing my website with and explanation? About the radio transmission, between the 7 and 19 of September i will be traveling in ARGENTINA. So, i like and can do it but in other date

 

 


El vie, 19 ago 2022 a las 12:38, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

Fernando

 

Black is too much evoking a bad future. I am not really In Violet but i think it could be the color of IT, or do you have a Color For Your Future?

 

em

 

 


De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, hoy Urgente

Date: 19 août 2022 à 12:39:56 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

I agree, black is too bad, I was thinking kind or red o blue like this or this

 

 

 

 

De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, carta postale por F

Date: 19 juillet 2022 à 13:22:35 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

Me parece fantastico. Te envio una imagen y QR, el qr seria para dejar un mensaje wasap y ser parte de la transmision al futuro

 

 

 

El vie, 19 ago 2022 a las 13:45, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

Here is a photoshop related visual. To continue conversation

 

 

 

De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: eric, comms

Date: 19 août 2022 à 13:51:08 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

You can put the text straight, i think is better

without the violet i also thing is better

and please try a crimson red like this

#DC143C ; rgb(220,20,60)

 

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De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: eric, comms

Date: 19 août 2022 à 13:51:31 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

the crimson instead the blue of the letter i mean

 

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De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: eric, comms

Date: 19 août 2022 à 13:51:35 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

El vie, 19 ago 2022 a las 14:09, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió: (

 

Send me asap either link, so to make the QR Code on my side, or your QR Code

 

 

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De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: eric, comms

Date: 19 août 2022 à 14:11:05 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

Much better! but take away the background texture XD. I not sure, you need 2 qr? one to my website? another for sending the voice messages (i can send you this in a while)

 

 

 

El vie, 19 ago 2022 a las 14:20, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió: (

 

 

you are straight as a policeman, even not a small SF design!!!

missing the title: please remind me !!!

 

 

 

De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: eric, comms

Date: 19 août 2022 à 14:22:40 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

The title is: 100 Años Luz

 

 

 

 

 

El vie, 19 ago 2022 a las 15:24, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

FERNANDO, please tell me now! If you are giving me the Code QR, I can wait a bit.

Otherwise, if it’s a link, I need it now!!! I need to send my Xcell sheet in half an hour max...

 

 


De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: eric, QR CODE

Date: 19 août 2022 à 15:30:16 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

Attached the QR. Should be with the text: Use the QR code for leaving a voice message, or something like that

 

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El vie, 19 ago 2022 a las 15:56, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

I just made 300 ca$, good !

 

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El vie, 19 ago 2022 a las 15:58, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

Code works: goes to your WhatSapp… not a personal pb ???

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De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: WORKS @ eric, QR CODE

Date: 19 août 2022 à 16:08:03 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

Yes, is the idea, no problem, i doubt to receive tons of messages XD

 

 

 


De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: eric, QR CODE

Date: 19 août 2022 à 16:09:09 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

great! Thanks. Nonono, the 300 is for printing and glue in the city, big scale production!!!

 

 

 

 

El mar, 13 sept 2022 a las 12:52, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió: (

 

 

Hola Barbara, Ozzo, Fernando. Para poder enviarle tarjetas postales del evento en Montreal, me gustaría saber su dirección postal completa. Gracias a ti

 

 

 

 

De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, contacto...

Date: 27 septembre 2022 à 14:04:56 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

Disculpa, mi direccion es Tomas Ramos 887, depto 42, Valparaíso.Gracias

 

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De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, contacto...

Date: 27 septembre 2022 à 14:21:56 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

 

You take the address from google? this one: O'Brien 247, Casa 4

 

 

 

De: Fernando Godoy M <fergodoym@gmail.com>

Objet: Rép: Eric, contacto...

Date: 27 septembre 2022 à 14:26:07 HAE

À: Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>)

aaaa

 

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El mar, 27 sept 2022 a las 15:17, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió: (

 

I sent to BASE

 

 

 

El mar, 27 sept 2022 a las 15:25, Eric Mattson (<oral@videotron.ca>) escribió:

 

Si !